CHINA- Harvesting Organs from Prisoners

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I have been keeping my lips shut on an issue burning inside of me. Normally when injustice boils my blood I can do nothing but shout it from the proverbial rooftops. But this… this has been so hard to digest.

I’m not sure why I have been clueless. After I learned of it, I brought it up on seperate occasions to both my father and brother and they both knew about it. I can not fathom why this isn’t on MSM (main stream media) and why there isn’t total OUTCRY about it! Please Media don’t tell me for the one MILLIONTH time what Paris Hilton is up to and not report what may possibly be one of the biggest human rights violations of our time!

It isn’t bad enough that China forces abortions on women about to give birth. And repetitively commits religious persecution by imprisoning people for their faith. But what do they do with these prisoners???

THEY FREAKING HARVEST THEIR ORGANS TO MAKE MONEY FROM RICH FORIEGNERS DESPERATE TO LIVE!

This has been on my mind for awhile now, unable to imagine the depths of depravity one must be in to be able to kill a person, even 5 people at times, for the possibility of finding 1 kidney for well funded person.

Of course, China denies this. Hard proof of the practice is difficult to find, but I have been reading incredible research on the topic and believe there is more than enough convincing evidence This Report on Organ Harvesting takes an investment of time to read… but if this issue breaks your heart the way it has mine you need to schedule the time and read it.

I have not been able to figure out how to sum up my thoughts on the process, or how to appropriately compile talking points from the report… I have not attempted discussing it on Mommyzabs previously. I wanted to do this topic justice. But all I can do now is pray and beg people to listen, even if my writing can appropriately reflect the urgency. My influence in this world is completely minute. However, I’m compelled to do whatever I can.

I’m not typically a boycotter. Mostly because Christians seem to take boycotting to a ridiculous extreme. It takes A LOT to make me boycott. I’m just not sure I can give another penny to support China knowingly. The more I talk to others, the more insight I gain… the more I have to speak with my money. Sometimes it is the only language people listen too.

My Boycott won’t be able to be 100%. Sometimes it just is not feasible (like when my child gets a McD’s kids meal with his friends and there is a made in China toy with it, It is hard to tell a 3 year old they can’t have it when all their kids have their kids meal toys at the table…) But I have already begun looking at labels on everything and staying away from China.

On that tangent… since boycotting China makes it quite difficult to buy toys for your children, I found a helpful link for finding products (including toys and toy brands) that are not made in China.

I am going to publish the following article in my blog in full and I do hope that isn’t inappropriate. I want you to read it as it is a better summation than I can do. Please do take the time to read the Full Report. There is more information than could ever justly be summarized.

Organs harvested from live prisoners
Allison Hanes, CanWest News Service
Published: Friday, May 18, 2007

TORONTO — Foreign patients who travel to China for transplants are likely receiving organs culled from political prisoners who are alive when their corneas, kidneys and livers are harvested, then left to die, an international group of doctors armed with a chilling Canadian report is warning.

In a new twist on an old practice of using organs from executed criminals, China has since 2000 turned to living donors and outlawed Falun Gong members to supply a growing trade in medical transplants, Doctors Against Organ Harvesting said Thursday during a public forum held at the University of Toronto.

With increasing numbers of Canadians on long waiting lists turning to China to save their own lives, the newly formed organization is seeking to warn patients that someone else’s life is likely being sacrificed in the process of obtaining organs.

“Each person who travels to China for an organ causes the death of another human,” said Dr. Torsten Trey, a Washington, D.C.-based physician and founding member of Doctors Against Organ Harvesting.

The group is sounding the alarm in the medical community about mounting evidence of unethical transplants in China. They want doctors to impress the information upon their patients. They want hospitals and universities to close their doors to visiting Chinese physicians and scholars looking to hone their techniques. And they want medical journals to reject research on transplants conducted in China.

“Medical science cannot build up any knowledge which is based on inhuman and unethical procedures,” said Trey, who compared China’s pilfering of organs from Falun Gong practitioners to Nazi medical experimentation during the Holocaust.

Doctors Against Organ Harvesting was formed in the wake of a Canadian investigation first released last year.

Authored by former Liberal MP David Kilgour and Winnipeg human rights lawyer David Matas, the report claims there is a widespread and systematic policy in China of selling organs from living donors to a growing clientele of desperate patients.

Kilgour said Thursday it is clear Falun Gong members are being targeted over other ethnic groups and religions, as a part of a campaign to villainize their spiritual practice since it fell out of favour with the government in 2000.

The report’s conclusions were drawn from interviews with a handful of eyewitnesses from the medical side, recipients of organs harvested in China, official government pronouncements, statistics showing a sudden explosion in the number of transplants performed, marketing Web sites and undercover inquiries to hospital.

In one instance, an Asian patient recounted that after rifling through a list of potential donors, a military doctor departed and returned to the hospital several times, bringing back a total of eight different kidneys before finally settling on a match.

In another, a sick patient found out one day he needed a transplant and had an organ within 24 hours.

Web sites market transplants in China in five different languages and in some cases guarantee availability of a matching organ within two weeks. The average wait time for a kidney in Canada is 32.5 months, while in British Columbia it is 52.5 months.

In surreptitious phone calls to Chinese transplant hospitals by Mandarin-speaking investigators, medical staff admitted organs came from Falun Gong prisoners.

While he is sympathetic to the plight of ailing Canadians who wait years for a transplant and face the prospect of dying before a match comes along, Kilgour said patients and doctors cannot turn a blind eye.

“Medicine cannot be practised by killing innocent people like chickens,” he said.

Gerry Koffman, a Toronto general practitioner and member of Doctors Against Organ Harvesting, said there are about 100 confirmed cases of Canadian patients from Toronto, Calgary and Vancouver having transplants done in China.

original report from Leader-Post (Regina)
(hat tip: ChinaView)

I wrote the author of the China View Blog a couple times to gain further perspective on what we can do. He is busy but has been very helpful. His 2 pieces of advice on what to do were the following:

A. as an individual, for our safety reason, buy as less Chinese products as we can. The bottom line is do not make our own life difficult, if the Chinese product is the only choice.

B. Urge/push the government/trade companies take action to boycott
until the situation is changed. Government action is the most effective way,
because for business companies profit is always their first choice and
they seldom really care about human rights.

To make it happen, we need to raise awareness and educate the officals,
NGOs, trade companies,etc, by make appointment/writing letter/email/fax,
and also the most important thing we are doing now, blogging.

I would like to add… If boycotting China gained enough buzz… like THE ONE campaign has, I do think it could be possible to effect the commerce world. If awareness was raised to the point that people were boycotting en masse and deciding to live with less in order to come against China’s human rights violations, some businesses would take the hint.

You may think, “this republican has fallen off her rocker” 🙂 But realize that I serve Jesus Christ before any political party. And though Republicans have more the reputation of ruthless capitalists, and though I do believe capitalism is the less of evils in economic systems, ethics are not to be forsaken. We must always respect human life because God created it. Innocents must always be protected. Always.

PLEASE bookmark the China View Blog and stay up to date on the CONSTANT human rights violations by the Chinese government. We as a nation have got to stop turning a blind eye toward what they are doing.

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34 Responses to “CHINA- Harvesting Organs from Prisoners”


  1. 1 Charles Liu June 1, 2007 at 12:49 am

    The Falun Gong allegation David Kilgour’s promoting has been discredited by multiple undercover investigations.

    US government and Chinese dissident investigations:

    1) http://www.zonaeuropa.com/20060806_1.htm

    http://www.cicus.org/news/newsdetail.php?id=6492

    2) http://usinfo.state.gov/xarchives/display.html?p=washfile-english&y=2006&m=April&x=20060416141157uhyggep0.5443231&t=livefeeds/wf-latest.html

    http://www.usembassy.it/pdf/other/RL33437.pdf (section CRS-7)

    3) http://crc.gov.my/clinicalTrial/documents/Proposal/TCM_Stroke%20TrialProtocol%20synopsis.pdf (page 3)

    As you can see, the hospital Falun Gong accused is partly owned by a Malaysian health care company and is subject to oversight beyond Chinese authority.

  2. 2 Charles Liu June 1, 2007 at 1:03 am

    (Sorry about the re-comment; links cited seems to have gone to spam jail.)

    The Falun Gong propaganda David Kilgour’s promoting has been discredited by multiple undercover investigations.

    Details on US government and Chinese dissident’s independent investigations are in my blog, thanks.

  3. 3 Neil June 1, 2007 at 8:39 am

    Thanks for sharing this important information. I just heard a Breakpoint Podcast about China and forced abortions. The government denies that those happen as well. How could anyone trust the Chinese government?

    Some people think that as China grows economically then they’ll improve politically. That is possible, as sometimes countries who are prosperous have more incentive to avoid war.

    However, the minority in China that is prosperous will have no incentive to give more power to the poor and oppressed, so I’m not holding my breath about them getting religious and political freedom anytime soon.

  4. 4 mommyzabs June 1, 2007 at 8:58 am

    Charles. Thank you for stopping by.
    I checked out some of your links and a few brought up error pages. I have to be honest. Reading most of the news I do out of China through amnesty international and other trusted sources I have trouble placing 100% confidence in China not doing these things. Canada seems to be rather on board in the belief that it is going on, and the harvesting report I read was absolutely clear to me. If it could ever be tried in a court of circumstantial evidance there is more than enough proof. I will spend more time reading the links you sent that do work, but in my skimming nothing stood out to me. I am new to this and not an expert though.

    I have little trust in a country that has the ability to slaughter 8 and 9 month babies from their mothers’ womb.

    If I find that beyond a doubt this stuff is not going on I will make sure I retract every word I have said regarding the organ harvesting. But how else do you explain the exponential rate or organ transplant growth in China over the last few years. Much higher growth rate (by far) than any other country. And how do you explain the speeed at which people find organs for the right price.

  5. 5 mommyzabs June 1, 2007 at 9:07 am

    Neil.
    China had also claimed that if they had the upcoming olympics that there would be more encouragement for those involved in Human Rights Violations to stop, but that has not been the case. Read more about this HERE
    when your children say, but mom I know I will stop lying, cheating, hitting my brother if you please just buy me more toys…Will that stop the behavior? no. I don’t understand the logic that if their are more resources the bad behavior will stop. Bad behavior is not a pure result of lacking resources. The fact is once they have seen the abundance of $ from this organ harvesting their hearts have hardened and getting money the fair way will not be as attractive.
    It is hard to get those who deal in drugs out of the life, because working a fair job doesn’t give them as much “bling”.
    Recently another one of the Doctors performing these organ transplants commited suicide (this has happened before- the chinese govt tries to cover these things up). this was published May 29th.

  6. 6 missy June 1, 2007 at 9:46 am

    Wow. I had NO IDEA! It is so sad, the terrible things that are happening all over the world, and we here in America are too wrapped up in our own little lives that we just don’t see it. You are so right about the media only reporting the stupid stuff that they think we Americans are ‘interested’ in. Sad thing is, they are probably right. However, I do wonder if they widely reported this type of news, would we as a country rally and try to do something about it??? I’d like to think we would, but hey, we DO know about what is happening in Darfur and not a whole lot is being done about THAT.

    You know, this is still only the tip of the iceberg of all the horrible things happening in the world. How unbelievably sad God must be when He sees the corruption and outright depravity in this world! I grieve for humanity.

    Thank you for opening my eyes to a situation that I may have never known about. I will be looking at labels now and I most definitely will be praying.

  7. 7 mommyzabs June 1, 2007 at 9:49 am

    Thank you missy. Spread the word.

  8. 8 LayGuy June 1, 2007 at 10:33 am

    Thanks MZ for this post.

    China has, in many ways, been the new Germany for a number of years now. The reason why the media hasn’t taken this on board is because of the economic prosperity offered by China to partner with them.

    Living in Australia, I enjoy an extremely strong economy mainly due to the mining boom as a result of China’s hunger for resources. If the media starts bagging China for it’s human rights abuse, these lucrative contracts will go elsewhere.

    Didn’t some Rabbi say, “The love of money is the root of all evil?”

  9. 9 Jordan (MamaBlogga) June 1, 2007 at 10:46 am

    I read most of the articles that Mr Liu cited. I can’t say for certain who among all parties is most correct, but I noticed that in these articles, while attempting to discredit the harvesting of organs from Falun Gong members, they acknowledged that death-sentence prisoners are having their organs harvested before they are left to die.

    Oh, well, that’s much better. Since they got a fair and public trial, they must deserve to die a slow, painful, torturous death.

    Wait–they DIDN’T get a fair and public trial (by our standards).

    Killing innocent people this way, if it’s happening, is absolutely reprehensible. But you know what? So is killing guilty ones.

    I also found it interesting that there were many comparisons to the Nazi concentration camps, and a lot of the arguments that these articles made were the same as the ones that people who believe the Holocaust never happened–i.e., killing/incinerations on that scale is beyond human capacity, etc.

  10. 10 totaltransformation June 1, 2007 at 11:41 am

    Ah, the joys of living under tyrants. The People’s Revolution worked such amazing wonders, hasn’t it?

  11. 11 mommyzabs June 1, 2007 at 1:43 pm

    Lay guy- you are exactly right, which is why i think that the people will have to rise up and stop buying things from china until they are listened to. But we would have to hope and pray for a tipping point of awareness world-wide for it to happen on a broad enough scale to make a differentce. Of coures, God is capeable of miracles 🙂 I’ll play my small part and pray it grows.

    Jordan- i read through it too, and I have read the complete organ harvesting report. There is a vast difference in the convincing evidence. One is more along the lines “china says they aren’t doing it” the other is along the lines of logical proof after proof…. The organ harvesting report is much more convincing, and I have no reason to trust China’s word.

    TT- Communism sucks.

  12. 12 theobromophile June 1, 2007 at 2:01 pm

    Thanks for the post. It made me want to throw up, or cry, or both.

    TT- Communism sucks.

    So true, so understated.

  13. 13 Anne Weakley June 1, 2007 at 2:28 pm

    Just saw a special on TV recently about this. It is horrific – thanks for bringing it to people’s attention. IT is so hard to believe that we live in the same world where stuff like that goes on!

  14. 14 mommyzabs June 1, 2007 at 2:39 pm

    anne i would really love to see that documentary. Do you have the title and network?

  15. 15 bobby fletcher June 1, 2007 at 5:00 pm

    Human rights can only be defended with facts.

    While China’s human rights record should be examined, writing allegory of “Schindler’s List” (the Kilgour report was written at the behest and sponsorship of Falun Gong) is not the way.

    Such as China’s moral ethical standards in treatment of death row inmates – a well documented issue Falun Gong is sensationalizing for their own political agenda.

    If we in the west can not be precise with our accusation, but fabricate sensational, nefarious indictments – it only discredit the cause of human rights and detracts from rational discussion.

  16. 16 mommyzabs June 1, 2007 at 5:12 pm

    bobby or charles, (which name is you, you signed in with both…)
    with respect. since you seem to disagree with the canadian article… have you read the other organ harvesting report I linked too? I would like to know your point counter point problem with it. Do you believe China’s abortion policy tramples human rights?

    I have read on your blog that you do not believe in organ harvesting, that you consider this the same thing as organ donaring, and that you say it is only death row inmates. are you saying 1. that all on death row in china are guilty people? or 2. that they still deserve this process?

    From what i know death row here and in china are a bit different.

    Also, I am obviously not in support of the beliefs help by the FG’s that are persecuted…But i still don’t think it is right (i know you don’t belive it is even happening.) I do know that persecution goes on of Christians there and have known people involved over there… So why would I not believe these claims by the FG?

    What is your agenda? just curious.

  17. 17 Teresa June 1, 2007 at 6:12 pm

    Boycotting China-made goods is a good start, but difficult to do effectivly (too many goods from China, too few people care enough to make it work, too many parts made in China and shipped as componants to other countries)

    Another way to help is to make sure to tell your represintatives and Senators that you want our country to tie China’s Most Favored Nation Status to improvements in human rights.

    Also, you can write a letter of protest to the Chinese embassy in the US This will embarass and pressure BOTH the US and China to work toward better human rights conditions in China.

    I know many Chinese people (I train in Shaolin Kung Fu and Qigong) and they are lovely, peaceful people who value life. Their government does not reflect the people of China.

    Here are the addresses of the Chinese embassies in the US:

    Here is the contact information for Chinese embassies in the US:

    Chinese Embassy in Washington DC
    Address: 2201 Wisconsin Avenue, N.W., Washington D.C. 20007
    Tel: (202) 338-6688, (202)5889760
    Fax: (202) 588-9760

    Chinese Consulate General in Chicago, IL
    Address: 1 East Erie Street, Suite 500, Chicago, IL 60611
    Tel: (312) 573-3070/3071
    Fax: (312) 803-0122

    Chinese Consulate General in Houston, TX
    Address: 3417 Montrose Blvd., Houston, TX 77006
    Tel: (713) 520-1462
    Fax: (713) 521-3064

    Chinese Consulate General in Los Angeles, CA
    Address: 443 Shatto Place, Los Angeles, CA 90020
    Tel: (213) 807-8088
    Fax: (213) 807-8091

    Chinese Consulate General in New York, NY
    Address: 520 12th Avenue, New York, NY 10036
    Tel: (212) 244-9392
    Fax: (212) 465-1708

    Chinese Consulate General in San Francisco, CA
    Address: 1450 Laguna Street, San Francisco, CA 94115
    Tel: (415) 674-2900
    Fax: (415) 563-0494

  18. 18 mommyzabs June 1, 2007 at 6:15 pm

    THanks so much for transferring that over here Teresa!

  19. 19 Teresa June 1, 2007 at 6:27 pm

    Charles Liu,

    It is possible that the Falun Gong practitioners are lying to further their political agenda…what exactly is their political agenda, then? It is to practice an ancient healing art and philosophy that involves forgiveness, meditation, the cultivation of good intentions, and an upright approach to the world (it not a religion). The Chinses government is arresting them to protect a government monopoly of the practice, which is nly allowed in government hospitals, stripped of it’s spiritual and moral discipline. Their “political agenda” is that they want to practice in peace without being attacked and arrested.

    It is possible that the Chinese government is telling the truth. I disbelieve them. I don’t disbelieve them because they are Communists. Communism is an economic system, nothing more and nothing less. I disbelieve the Chinese government because it is totalitarian which is inherantly immoral, has lied in the past, and is rife with corruption, and which uses severe and draconian punishments to exort compliance rather than striving to achieve justice.

    The Chinese government has lied many many times, and continues to lie. They lie about their environmental impact. They lie about whole villages being wiped out by industrial poison due to corruption. they look the other way when fellow officials are bribed, and when they can’t look the other way anymore because someone gets cought red-handed, they execute the person rather than fixing the problem.

  20. 20 Teresa June 1, 2007 at 6:29 pm

    Mommyzabs,

    Happy to do it! Now, go get ’em! 🙂

  21. 21 mommyzabs June 1, 2007 at 9:10 pm

    All great points theresa…As i keep saying there are SO MANY good points that are more than convincing in the extensive organ harvest report I linked to in my post. More points than I could justly sum up in one post. It is worht the time of reading. I wish all would take an hour to do so. The links and refutes of the organ harvesting from charles/ bobby and others are nothing in comparison to this report.

    I have a total and complete distaste for communism. So I’m not going to say I don’t blame it. But I do think you are right teresa, the totalitarianism (which often seems to go hand and hand with communism eventually)is the true evil. And our capitalism (though i am a capitalist) Is fine with it because it is worshipping the dollar over ethics.

  22. 22 Charles Liu June 2, 2007 at 3:28 am

    MZ, “bobby fletcher” is my blog handle, as indicated by my blog.

    Not one fact I cited is from “the communist” – not the US embassy investigation, not the famous Chinese dissident’s investigation.

    I found them on Google.

    Here’s another one. In a report critical of China titled “The Collateral of Suppression”, written for Senator Dianne Feinstein, member of US Congressional Executive Commission on China (CECC), congressional researchers Emma Ashburn and Thomas lum were quoted.

    Here’s the relevant excerpt:

    “Emma Ashburn, a research associate at the Congressional-Executive Committee on China (CECC), said that the Matas-Kilgour report really – offered nothing new – in terms of evidence on the matter of organ harvesting. The evidence they did collect, namely the phone calls and testimonies, were dubious in their objectivity.

    Specialist in Asian Affairs at the Congressional Research Service, Thomas Lum, noted that the evidence could have easily been distorted. The individuals calling the hospitals were all affiliated with FLG, and Lum said that it is unlikely for doctors and officials working for the state to casually divulge such sensitive and damaging information so easily.

    Moreover, Lum’s efforts to contact both the Chinese journalist and doctor’s wife have been fruitless, as FLG members direct all communications toward these individuals and they often do not respond. Harry Wu, a longtime political activist known for his hardline anti-PRC views, announced on August 9, 2006 that he would challenge the allegations made by FLG about targeted organ harvesting, especially the claim about the Sujiatun concentration camp.

    About the report, the South China Morning Post reports, “Mr. Wu, who has spent 15 years gathering evidence on the harvesting of organs from executed Chinese prisoners, said the information was based on the testimony of two witnesses, neither of whom had first-hand information. He believed the reports were fabricated.”

    Wu had tried to follow up with the witnesses just as Lum had – to the same futility. “In the face of these criticisms, including from even Wu, who formerly held friendly relations with FLG, all things considered the allegations FLG has made about a targeted campaign of state-sponsored genocide are most likely untrue.”

  23. 23 mommyzabs June 2, 2007 at 9:49 am

    Somehow I missed that bobby is your blog handle. Thank you for the explanation.
    I have some questions for you.
    1. Where are you coming from in this? What is it that motivates you to prove that this is not happening. Would you stake your life on it or is this something you just largely believe to be true?
    2. What are you feelings on the 1 child policy in China? Do you believe the reports of Christians and others forced to abort at 8-9 mos of pregnancy? some even full term? or is this even a sham?
    3. Do you believe there is religious freedom in China?
    4. Do you believe that China is a human rights violator? If yes, to what extent? And if yes, what do you believe are the appropriate steps to correcting that?
    I ask this all out of a good heart so please read no harsh town into my words/ questions. I am on a personal quest in my own heart right now. I still believe that the organ harvesting is going on, and may be able to listen to you more if I knew more about you. For all I know you are a denier and that is it. I know some of this can be found on your blogs (i’m assuming) but for my sake and those others following this thread please sum your thoughts above. Please don’t skip a question. Your participation is appreciated.

  24. 24 MDBL June 2, 2007 at 1:34 pm

    Charles / Bobby
    A lot of us here stick by our current administration & its status quo so we can relate to your denial in a strange sorta way…

    But seriously though, answer the questions please. They are very simple & clear… It would be a big help.
    🙂

  25. 25 misi June 2, 2007 at 2:27 pm

    E,
    I just finished reading the documentary you linked to and I am shocked. I really have no other words now… Please keep us posted.

  26. 26 mommyzabs June 2, 2007 at 2:34 pm

    OH MISI! Thank you so much for taking the time to read it. Now you know why it was so hard for me to figure out how to post about for so long. Isn’t there so much more than you could even re-articulate? Don’t you find it convincing? Why are we so surprised what human depravity is capeable of? after all, the Bible tells us that every kind of evil is possible with out God. But I still read it with complete shock.

  27. 27 misi June 2, 2007 at 2:39 pm

    You know your right, we shoudn’t be suprised but since we live by our standard of ethics we are. I am going to be praying about this, right now I don’t know what I am to do about it although I can tell you this- I will be spreading the word. To anyone and everyone who will listen. I gave your site to a coworker(I hope you don’t mind) and she was appalled also.
    Yes it is convincing, I believe it 100%. Like you said why should we believe anything else? What have they done to convince us that they are not capable??

  28. 28 mommyzabs June 2, 2007 at 2:43 pm

    Thanks misi
    Always feel free to give the site, I’m far from private here 🙂

  29. 29 tieki rae June 4, 2007 at 1:36 am

    Hey MZ, thanks for posting this. I completely understand how challenging it can be to tackle such a serious issue when words just seem completely inadequate, but I think you did a great job. Furthermore, even if we aren’t always eloquent, it is still good to get the word out and let people see for themselves, like you said.

    I cannot think of a single policy related to the Chinese government that doesn’t honestly make me feel sick to my stomach. It disgusts me that the entire free world just sits back and lets them carry out the horrific polices that they do. No, actually, the entire free world SUPPORTS their policies by trading with them and giving them the Olympics, etc. I know that everything the devil means for evil, God will work for good, so something good will come of the 2008 Olympics. But that doesn’t excuse the fact that the international community has chosen to turn a blind eye to Chinese atrocities!

    Perhaps, the 2008 Olympics will be a chance for Christian and human rights activists to get into China and publicize these horrible policies! I don’t really know. Like you said, it is so hard to buy products that aren’t made in China, but I do my best given their anti-Christian, anti-life policies.

    Well, this isn’t completely on the organ harvesting topic specifically… but China just sucks so bad in every area, it’s pretty easy to get off topic!

  30. 30 mommyzabs June 4, 2007 at 9:15 am

    Tieki,
    All very well said. I don’t mind you taking it off topic. The Olympics are a big issue. There are so many issues and part of me wants to post them all as they come up over and over! BUT this isn’t a china blog, so that is why I encourage everyone to regularly check the China View Blog.

    Yes, boycotting completely is hard, and I’m not exactly having a bonfire where I’ll burn everything I already have… but I’m gong to do my best, read lables, and avoid it as much as possible.

    And prayer. Yes praying that God uses this for good. I have been praying for massive revival in China. The Apostle Paul was saved out of his life of persecuting Christians, there is not reason the same can’t happen now.

  31. 31 holly June 6, 2007 at 3:25 pm

    Thank you so much for this info! They have treated their people poorly for so long, this is a new and disgusting low! I am in complete agreement with your boycot. THanks again for this information. China and our goverment need to understand that there are people in the United States who will not stand for this no matter how much we save by purchasing their products!


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